Well folks, some guy calling himself ‘proud incestophobe’ has left not just one, but THREE comments on my blog. I approved these comments only because I believe in free speech, and just as I have allowed him to have his say, I am going to have mine in response to what he has said.
The first comment he left was in response to my article the line was never more clear:
You both sicken me. Him more than you, for obvious reasons, but you still sicken me. Incest is disgusting.
For the record, I’m gay, I’m into sex, I’m kinky, and I wouldn’t have been born if it weren’t for incest.
You want to outstretch your hand to the LGBT community? Well this is us, slapping that hand back. We love our real allied communities, the ace/aro/spec folk, the intersex folk and the polyamorus folk (and the kinky people that aren’t disgusting). We’re not Allies to literal perverts. You’re disgusting.
Okay, this sets the scene, he wouldn’t have been born if it wasn’t for incest, but he is against incest because it’s disgusting and that makes me disgusting too… apparently. So according to his logic, he shouldn’t have been born?
Notice he calls us ‘literal perverts’… on what basis does he call us perverts? Oh yea, that’s right, his disgust. Last I checked, we too fall under the umbrella of ‘consenting adults’, and therefore, consanguinamory is an orientation, not a perversion.
While he has every right to feel disgusted at the thought of doing incest himself, because like any other sexual expression, it’s not for everyone. He does NOT however have the right to brand us all ‘perverts’. His logic is no better than the logic homophobes would use against him.
The second comment he left was in response to yes, daughters are actual grown women capable of making their own decisions:
SHE’S 18, YOU GROSS LOSER.
She’s barely an adult. She’s still a teenager. She’s the same age as my teenage cousin! She’s a flipping teenage girl!
It’s abuse. It’s peadophilia, and it’s disgusting. An 18 year old victim of sexual abuse and neglect got groomed and raped by her father, and you’re defending that sicko? You disgust me.
Cousin x cousin is bad enough (I wouldn’t have been born without this). Sibling x sibling is even worse. But child x parent? It’s abuse plain and simple, he should be locked up. Throw away the key.
You disgust me, truly. Delete your blog. Rethink your life choices.
I certainly will not delete my blog regardless of how disgusted you are. The fact that you have had to resort to capital letters and insults only demonstrates how weak your argument actually is.
Somebody sleeping with an 18 year old is pedophilia? Really? On what planet? Last I checked 18 is old enough to consent anywhere on Earth. Pedophilia is when an adult grooms and sexually assults and molests a CHILD. At 18, by definition, she was NOT A CHILD. Furthermore, the fact that she had been sexually abused by someone else previously does not detract from her ability, as an adult to consent to sex. If you would argue otherwise, you would be forced to say that victims of sexual abuse and assault could never consent to sex with anyone. This is obviously false. As a young ADULT woman, she was able to make her own decisions.
By the way, I know from personal experience that there is nothing wrong with parent/offspring relationships… I was in one. Yes, it was my own choice at 19 years of age, I was not groomed, I was not molested, I was not abused in any way… I simply fell in love with my father for the man he is. I did a lot of soul searching before I understood that some people were just wired up this way, without Westermarck Effect. While I am no longer with him romantically, I am very much in support of others who have similar experiences.
Would I have made this entire blog, been a shoulder to cry on for other consangs who had nowhere else to turn, would I have helped to build our community online and helped people to understand themselves and their consang relatives better if I was a victim? Short answer: No, I do these things as a service to the minority I belong to because I want to help others, and because I am needed. We do not ask to be what we are, but we exist and we deserve equal rights. I’m only sorry you cannot see that.
Oh, and here was the third and final comment, posted in response to ‘handling coming out‘:
Don’t appropriate LGBT terms. You don’t ‘come out’, you just admit to being gross.
And flip off, you think someone supporting same sex relationships mean they support insest? That’s homophobic as heck. And you want us to be ‘allies’. Sickening.
And just if any of you perverts were wondering- I’d be the worst case scenario. Or as I like to call it, decent human being with a functional brain.
To come out is not a term exclusive to LGBT people, it applies to all sexual minorities, including us. For the record, much of our terminology has evolved on it’s own over the last few years, coming out just happens to be one we share with everyone else. Here are some of our commonly used terms:
Consang – Abbreviated form of ‘consanguinamorous’ – Being romantically and/or sexually attracted to one or more family members.
Bisang – Abbreviated form of ‘bisanguinamorous’ – Being about equally attracted to related and unrelated people
Regular – Person who is exclusively attracted to unrelated people
GSA – Genetic Sexual Attraction – What occurs around 50% of the time when people are separated and reunite in adulthood. A form of consanguinamory.
Non-GSA – Consanguinamory occurring naturally without separation and reunion
Needless to say, these aren’t borrowed words.
Homophobic? The homosexual consangs I know would disagree with you, and I’ve known quite a few over the years, some of them are my friends. In fact, anyone who knows me knows that I am not homophobic, quite the opposite actually. Furthermore, I did not say that all people who support LGBT automatically support us too, I said that the arguments against LGBT and the arguments against consanguinamory are THE SAME ARGUMENTS, and that the only separate argument is the ‘mutant babies argument’. My point is that people should support CONSENTING ADULTS, period.
Overall, my point is that you can find me as disgusting as you want to, but it is NOT going to stop me from posting and doing what I do to help others. I’m not going to get upset and stop posting because some random person on the internet has decided to try to insult me. I also am not going to take your insults personally, I just hope you read more of my stuff and at least try to understand our perspective even if you’re grossed out by incest yourself.
Again, my hand goes out to those of other sexual minority groups who may wish to be allies. If anyone reading this is unsure or has questions, don’t hesitate to ask, that’s what I am here for.