Well guys, FINALLY, a media article that is well balanced and sympathetic to Monica and Caleb, courtesy of the Daily Mail. It’s kept to the factual information, and has allowed the couple to tell their side of the story, so this is a real rare gem of journalism that we’re being treated to here.
A mother and son whose forbidden love affair could land them each a lengthy jail sentence have declared they are ‘madly in love’ and nothing will tear them apart.
Monica Mares, 36, and her son Caleb Peterson, 19, face up to 18 months in prison if found guilty of incest at a trial later this year in New Mexico.
But the mother and son couple have vowed to fight for their right to have a sexual relationship and are appealing to the public to donate to their legal fund.
And I hope that more people would like to donate to that fund if they’re able to do so, click the link here if you wish to donate. I think we’ve pretty much established that the legislation against incest is immoral and ridiculous, and so I really do hope that this media coverage will help others to see that prising apart loving couples is just plain wrong.
In an exclusive individual interviews with Daily Mail Online, they told how they are willing to risk everything to be together – and have decided to go public with their affair in a bid to raise awareness of Genetic Sexual Attraction (GSA) relationships.
As it should, and they are very brave people to participate in raising awareness like this, it will not only help them, but others too.
GSA is defined as sexual attraction between close relatives, such as siblings or half-siblings, a parent and offspring, or first and second cousins, who first meet as adults.
Mares said: ‘He is the love of my life and I don’t want to lose him.My kids love him, my whole family does. Nothing can come between us not courts, or jail, nothing.
‘I have to be with him. When I get out of prison I will move out of Clovis to a state that allows us to be together.’
An option they have of course, but why should they have to move? Why can’t people just let others have their love lives in peace without legal harassment, intimidation and incarceration.
Incest is a crime in all 50 states, but the specifics of the laws and punishment vary greatly from state to state.
Not in Rhode Island and New Jersey it isn’t, but you’re absolutely right that in the other states the laws do vary greatly. In some states being convicted of incest can land you a life sentence, which is as much time as served by murderers in those same states.
Mother-of-nine Mares said she would even give up the right to see her other children if she was asked to choose between them and her lover.
Which just goes to show how deep their love goes. I guess my main point is that she shouldn’t have to choose between him and her other kids. Why should anyone have to make such a choice?
The couple who currently live separately in Clovis, New Mexico – and are banned from having any contact with each other by the courts – first embarked on their love affair towards the end of last year.
Mares was just 16 when she gave birth to Peterson – whose pre-adoption name was Carlos – and he was adopted as a baby.
The 36-year-old, who didn’t raise Peterson, saw him for the first time in 18 years last Christmas when she picked him up at his adoptive father’s house in Texas and brought him to her home after the pair got in touch over Facebook.
The couple soon developed romantic feelings for each other and their relationship became sexual a few weeks later.
Which makes this a standard case of Genetic Sexual Attraction, which can in fact affect up to 50% of reunited persons.
‘The first time I met my son in person I was so happy and excited I gave him a big hug,’ Mares said.’I went to go pick him up at his dad’s house in Texas.
‘He gave me a call and asked me to pick him up, I got butterflies in my stomach.
‘I met him outside and I knew it was him when he came towards me. He was crying and he gave me a hug.
‘It was almost love at first sight but first it was mother love. He gave me a mother hug.
‘He came home in the truck and came to live with me and we were both happy as mother and son.’
Mares said that at first nothing happened but she then started getting these ‘crazy’ feelings.
Except that they aren’t crazy, they’re perfectly normal and natural, they’re just not understood by the mainstream yet.
She said it felt different because she didn’t raise him as her child yet after all these years he came back to her.
‘It felt like I met somebody new in my life and I fell in love with him,’ she explained.
Which highlights the difference between GSA and Non-GSA consanguinamory. GSA is biologically incest but not sociologically so. Non-GSA is both. In this GSA case, he was a grown man who came into her life who she fell in love with, he just happened to be her biological son.
She continued: ‘At first I told him, “I’m sorry I don’t know how you are going to react to this. I’m your mom and you’re my son, but I’m falling in love with you”.
‘And he said: “You know what I am too. I was scared to let you know”. He was falling in love with his mom and I was falling in love with my son.
‘We talked about it and we took off to the park. I said, “Would you ever date your mom?” And he said: “would you ever date your son?” And I said, “Honest truth yes I would”.’
Conversations like this can be rather awkward for many consanguinamorous people, not knowing for sure how the other person is going to react with the societal taboo against incest. To be honest, this exchange of words is just beautiful.
Mares says Peterson is the best thing that has happened to her in the past 19 years and wants to be with him for the rest of her life.
She understands that she risks losing all her children and going to state prison but they both want to fight it.
As they should, they have the fundamental right to be together if they want to. It’s an absolute outrage that the legal system is treating them in this way. This community is behind them 100% and will support them every step of the way.
‘Caleb is willing to go through the same thing. Whatever it takes to be together,’ she said.
At first the couple lived happily together in Mares’ mobile home with her two youngest children Uriah and Joseph – keeping their relationship a secret from the world.
Mares’ youngest son even began calling Peterson ‘dad’.
Just a shame they had to hide it in the first place, forcing people into closets for fear of the law is cruel and immoral. It’s got to stop. Clearly they are a happy couple facing tremendous persecution… we all hope that their speaking out in this way will open a few minds and hearts and let the world see what crap our people have to cope with.
But police soon found out about the clandestine affair during a call over a row between the family and some neighbors.
The couple was charged with incest – a fourth-degree felony in New Mexico – following the February 25th incident.
They were arraigned and appeared jointly in court in April – but were held in custody for breaching their no-contact order.
They were released on $5,000 bond and now face a trial by jury in September.
Which, as I’ve said when I originally covered this case when it broke, is ridiculous.
Currently Mares is not allowed to see any of her children or have any contact at all with Peterson.Yet she maintains that is has all been worth it.
‘It is every bit worth it,’ she said. ‘If they lock me up for love then they lock me up. There is no way anybody could pull us apart, and I really do love him.
‘It hurts he is far away. It hurts really bad. I wish I could see him, talk to him, but I can’t risk it.’
Which just shows the world the kind of pain and suffering that is being caused by such vile and hateful legislation. High time it was changed.
Peterson said he started falling love with his mom about a week after meeting her – but claims as he grew up with an adopted parents he never really saw Mares as his mother.
‘I never had anyone cook me meals or give me anything,’ he said. ‘I never got anything my entire life and she went out of her way to make me happy and after about a week or so I started having feelings for her and I guess I fell in love.
‘It went beyond a mother-son relationship I never really viewed her as my mom. In certain aspects I do but mostly I don’t.
Again, pretty typical of GSA consanguinamory. Most GSA people see their ADOPTIVE parents as their parents.
‘I never thought I was crazy for having these feelings because I didn’t see her as my mom, it was more like going to a club and meeting a random person. It didn’t feel wrong, it felt normal.’
Peterson claims it was him who made the first move not his mom.
In reality, it shouldn’t make any difference who made the first move, and nor should it be anyone’s business, but I understand why he would want everyone to know that he did. People make all kinds of outrageous assumptions about predatory parents, and he is proving to the world that she is NOT the predatory monster that some people would make her out to be.
He recalls: ‘We were hanging out just talking and I looked at her and she looked at me and I kissed her.
‘It was a real kiss it had feelings behind it, there was a spark that ever since then it just stayed.
‘Honestly I never thought we would get into trouble for our relationship. We were both consenting adults – when it comes down to it.
‘She’s adult I’m adult I can make my own decisions. I never thought it would blow up into something like this.’
Sadly, a some people do get caught unaware. It shouldn’t have blown up like this at all, but it has, and now this case is calling attention to the obvious injustice against any and all consenting adults who are with somebody who is closely related.
Mares also said that it didn’t feel strange or wrong when the couple began their sexual relationship – but admits that it probably wouldn’t have happened if she had raised Peterson.
‘The first time we were physical ended up holding hands and then we ended up kissing and the kissing led to other things,’ she said. ‘I felt comfortable with him and we fell even more deeply in love.
‘If he had been with me all his life I don’t think anything would have happened between us.’
Which again highlights the difference between GSA and non-GSA consanguinamory. GSA people lack the Westermarck effect for each other because of the separation, they get Westermarck effect for their adoptive families. Non-GSA people have a very low or absent Westermarck effect even for the family they grew up around.
As well as legal trouble, the couple has met opposition from friends, neighbors, family members and the wider community.
Mares has been attacked outside her home and subjected to death threats.
She said: ‘I’ve been having a lot of trouble from the people in Clovis. They call me incest.
‘They say I’ve got a hit on me in jail and two hits in state prison if they send me there.
‘A hit means they are going to try and shank me, kill me. It’s been kind of hard for me to go to stores and stuff.
‘One incident happened at a nearby store there was a girl there I had trouble with before she ended up pulling knives out on us – it was me and my niece Tiffany.
‘She said “I’m gonna kill you” and all kinds of stuff.
‘I’m scared to go out so I stay home. They have my picture on the internet, they know my jail picture. I’m scared I’m worried.’
All of which is abhorrent and disgusting. All the more reason why it is important that such stories are spoken about and gotten into the public eye, to tackle the myths and prejudices surrounding these relationships. Ultimately, incestophobia must be tackled so that people don’t have to suffer being abused in the street and made to feel afraid for their lives. How heartless some people are.
Mares says other moms she knows don’t understand what she’s going through but says her kids have said they will love her no matter what.
But with a torn look on her face, she added: ‘But if I had to choose between my son and all my other kids I’d chose him.’
As I’ve said earlier in this analysis, she should not be forced to make such a choice.
Peterson added: ‘My dad walked out on me because of it.
‘There’s a lot of negative comments I read on Facebook and things – people say it’s disgusting, it’s gross, she’s your mom but it doesn’t hurt me or affect me at all.
‘If they were in my situation or if they were to find out that somebody they loved was actually related to them then they’d be saying the exact opposite.’
Other peoples disgust be damned, he was in love and having a healthy relationship. If others don’t understand, the problem is THEIRS. If only they could see that.
Peterson admits that sometimes he wonders if he should have done things differently – if only to spare his family the pain.
But he said that even if the judge offered to spare him jail if he stopped all contact with his mother, he would refuse.
And he has vowed to wait for Mares if she is jailed and he isn’t.
‘Sometimes the easy way isn’t the best way,’ he said. ‘Sometimes we have to make that life decision that’s going to change and affect everything but when it comes down to it, it’s worth it.
‘I will wait for her if she gets a jail sentence and I don’t. For me it’s not about patience it’s about commitment.
‘If I’m committed to something I follow it through that’s the kind of person I am.
‘If I love her enough and I’m crazy enough to stay in Clovis for her and crazy enough to face all the courts for her then waiting a bit of time to have the rest of my life being happy then I’m willing to do that.’
Which should prove to anyone that this is genuine love, and that he is NOT a victim as some people would like to claim. When you’ve got people this madly in love who are being persecuted for it… it really does boggle the mind.
Daily Mail Online interviewed the couple separately to ensure they did not breach their court order.
As a sign of his love and commitment, Peterson left a rose for Mares on the bench at the park in Clovis where the couple first expressed their love for each other.
He said: ‘She’s never had anyone give her a rose. If I could I’d give her everything she wants. I miss talking to her and seeing her. There’s not a day that goes by that I don’t think about her.
‘If I could speak to her now I would say to her: “I love you and I miss you and I can’t wait to see you again.”‘
That’s really sweet. How does such an obvious display of love become disgusting just because they’re related? It doesn’t.
Despite the immense opposition to the couple’s relationship, Mares and Peterson do have supporters in the community – including Dayton Chavez, Mares’ ex and father to two of her sons Moses, nine, and Joseph, 12.
He said: ‘I’ve told them I still love you guys either way. I support them.
‘I would like to see the government get out of their business and let them live a normal life – let them live how they want to live.
‘It would be different if it was a domestic violence situation but it’s not.
‘My point of view is they need to be allowed to live just how they are that’s what America is built on.’
I agree wholeheartedly with Dayton. he seems like a man of common sense and empathy, something that is rare to find in this world. Of course the government should get out of their business, when a government tells people who they may or may not love, what freedom do people have really? A lot less than they’d like to think.
The couple – who both have roots with Native American Apache tribes – is also being supported by Cristina Shy who runs www.lilysgardener.com, a support and advocacy website for related couples, also known as consanguinamorous people.
Cristina, who is involved in an illegal relationship with her half brother in Minnesota, said: ‘Our whole community is watching this case and looking for updates.
Indeed we are, and we will continue to do so until it’s conclusion. Good on you for getting out there and offering support to this couple, and for speaking to the press.
‘It needs to be brought to the attention of everybody in the country and people need to start thinking differently.
‘It was the same with gay people just a few years ago and now they can get married they are accepted.
‘Well why not consanguinamorous people like us? We are all adults. We are not pedophiles, there’s no domestic issue we are in love, we want to be together but we are related. That shouldn’t be a deciding factor.’
Right on the money! Couldn’t have put it better myself.
Cristina is hoping to raise enough money to get a high profile attorney to defend the case and says the couple is willing to fight all the way to the US Supreme Court.
‘This case could set precedent and change laws throughout the United States,’ she said.
Ultimately that’s what we’re all hoping for, and even if this particular case doesn’t make it, one will, as it must eventually. Ideally the change in legislation should be brought about sooner rather than later.If the United States changes it’s laws, it will encourage other countries to do so, which will be of benefit to all consanguinamorous people regardless of which country they live in.
But Prosecutor Andrea Reeb, District Attorney for the Ninth Judicial District in New Mexico, doesn’t agree.
She says incest is against the law and carries a maximum 18 month jail term and/or a $5,000 fine.
Speaking to Daily Mail Online from her office in Clovis, Reeb concedes there is a chance Peterson could be spared jail because of his age – but she’s doubtful Mares will be treated as leniently.
Of course she doesn’t agree, she’s a prosecutor and an obvious bigot. Just because the law is written in a way that means that you can prosecute somebody, does not mean that you should. Does this lady stop to think of the harm she is inflicting upon this family? I doubt it. Furthermore, what of the money she is wasting persecuting this couple which could be better spent convicting a rapist or a pedophile. I bet it’s never even entered her head.
She said: ‘The law states that if you are related as they are – mother and son – you cannot have any type of sexual intimate relationship. It’s a fourth-degree felony. It’s the law so our office is bound to uphold the law so we are pursuing it.’
A law that is both unconstitutional and immoral, she didn’t have to pursue this conviction, because they aren’t obligated to uphold laws that break the constitution. So that’s bullshit, she WANTED to persecute this couple and is using the law as a tool to do so.
Reeb said that in her 20-year career as a prosecutor she has only handled a few incest cases.
She added: ‘This case is going to be difficult only in the sense that some people think that Caleb is a victim and not a defendant.
‘I have not got any feedback from the community or from anybody else believing that Monica Mares, the mother, that anybody has any sympathy towards her whatsoever.
That’s only because of the deeply ingrained social taboo. Lose the incestophobia and you lose any basis for a prosecution. Caleb is NOT a victim, Monica is NOT a predator… they are two people who fell in love, are you, Reeb, so fucking blinded by hate that you cannot see that?! Given that she’s going ahead with this, I’ve probably just asked a stupid question.
‘Both have acknowledged they knew it was wrong, they are both consenting adults so they are considered co-defendants.
‘It’s only a fourth-degree felony so it’s the lowest level of felony in New Mexico.’
She added that if the couple reunited after their sentences – and law enforcement found out – they would be held accountable.
Well, good luck with that, you can’t touch them if they move to a state where their relationship is legal, and you cannot stop people from moving to other states. Also, I don’t think any rational can see their relationship as ‘wrong’, merely ‘illegal’… and it shouldn’t be.
For Peterson, he is willing to wait for his mom if she’s jailed, and despite the risk of further prosecution he still sees a happy future for the unconventional couple.
‘In two years time I can see us living together happily living our lives,’ he said. ‘True love can do anything.
‘This whole case is about whether I have the right to love somebody and I sure as hell have the right to love Monica.
‘You can’t tell me who to love, who not to love.’
Exactly! Right on Caleb, both of you keep on fighting the good fight and remember that we’re behind you for the whole journey.
That’s the job lot folks, the story as told from THEIR perspective. I’d like to thank Monica and Caleb for being brave enough to speak to the press, the Daily Mail staff for covering their story, and Cristina who helped by going there and offering her support. Great things may yet come of this… our eyes are all open and we will all be watching for further updates.